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So in this forum i want to research everything from the Commando Supremo (italian high command) down.

i want to eventually have a list and statistics of every type of

- small arm
- large arm (artillery, AA gun AT guns etc)
- tank
- vehicle
- armoured vehicle
- tank
- tankette
- Plane
- Ship
- type of unit
- uniform/ camo
- and more

used in the italian military, i want to do this so that the regular person can educate themselves on the italian military so we can start to shy away from the Brit Propaganda of ww2 saying the italian army was a total fail

i want to use this info so that we can have an organized list of italian weapons/models to be used in the North African, East African, West African, Italian, Balkan, French Alps, and Russian Fronts as part of the mod.

i only want historical statisics and everything must be sourced (although the source doesnt matter it could be wiki for example)  

i also am going to set up some very good battles that can accompany these models, and hopefully eventually start some concept art on them.

i will only start if i notice people will help me and or this starts to get a following

Now to give a background of why im doing this.

- My Great-Grandpa Fought in Africa For the Italians in WW2 till he was captured (he spent the rest of the war in Australian in a Pow Camp)
- My other one served in Naples, Italy as a Partisan against the germans and was a nieghbourhood leader
- lack of media (especially video games) on the italian military in general (not only in WW2)
- i want the italian military in the mod (please someone do this i will love you long time)
- a nationalistic pride of being italian
- to educate everyone (including myself)


current requests for the mod list here http://ironfront.forumchitchat.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1278836542&postcount=101

i eventually want to do something like this for smaller countries such as romania, hungary, yugoslavia, greece, austria, czechslovakia (later slovakia), bulgaria etc. maybe merge some of those into one forum

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Reserved to keep the info in a spolier tag here that should do it


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some background


Post ww1

November 3,1918 despite an outnumbered italy (5 million italians and 20,000-45,000 brits vs 8 million German and Austrians) they were able to subdue the Great Austro-Hungarian empire (in just 3 years) into giving them terms. Italy was able to force Austria to give them terms because following a turning point battle in Late-Middle 1918 (the battle of Vitterio Venito) tha was able to force an already battle broken and bloodied austrian army to the point of near colapse, coupled with the german soldiers being recalled to germany (300,00). sensing a fatal counterattack (which italy was brewing) they gave italy terms for an armistance

in red is the max extent of italian forces into austrian lands. the rest of the named provences are italian pre-war provences 

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despite moving farther into enemy lands then any other Entente Country, Britain and France were more interested in getting revenge on germany after being mauled by them for 4 years, then giving the land that was promised to them by the entente in the treaty of london. (this was the only reason why italy joined the war on the side of the entente)

major land areas promised to italy in the event of victory by the treaty of london
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Location of Antalya Province in Turkey

infact the backing of italy was so little and far gone that a country that wasn't even part of the Treaty of london, Woodrow Wilson and the Americans gave it better terms. very respectable, and fair terms to all parts, and that was lands were there was a ethnicity of 40% of italians or higher that were part of the treaty of london. all in all the Entente failled the italian people and Needless to say italy got very little of the land promised (this got factored into why things went the way they went in WW2)


the best part about all of this is that had italy joined the central powers would have likely won the war due to

- control of the east Mediterranean german troops in africa, with the help of italian ports could be reinforced or gotten supplies at the very least, giving the ability to fight longer

- all of a sudden 600,000 germans are nolonger fighting in the italian alps but in the northern front

- a 3 front war for the Austrians turns into a 2 front war, austria now has 7.4million men to spare in serbia and russia places where they already had an upper hand

- all of a sudden an already thinned Entente now has hundreds of kilometers of defence to worry about as well 5 million italians and there impressive navy to deal with in the south

- austria likely sends 600,000 men to help italy so now a the entente has to deal with 5.6 million men to deal with

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The Interwar period

due to the lack luster reparations many italian right wing ex-soldiers and civilians occupied yugoslavian land including the major port of Fuime. Although a year later most of the land was given back some was kept. Ironicaly it was italian soldiers who had to fight the Nationalists out of Fuime.


Between the years of 1918 and 1922 the italian Government was facing the threat of Communism overtaking the government. Because of this (much like german) the government and middleclass population wanted the Right wing to stand up. Benito Mussolini and his Partito Nazionale Fascista (PNF) did (yes Facism came from Italy, but much different from the Racist-Facism of germany, italy helped jews from the germans). this won both popular and government support.

"Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today.… National pride has no need of the delirium of race."- Benito Mussolini

The King of Italy fearing a right wing coup was forming (which it was, and almost did it was planned for the day after this was anounced) named Benito Mussolini and His PNF party as head of state with a majority slowly turning it into a dictorship (3 years to be exact).

“The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.” — Adolf Hitler
cough* cough* modern day america cough* cough* West world cough* cough*


Benito Mussolini havign set himself up as leader of italy he started to prepar italy for the second comming of the Roman Empire, and fasioned himself as the second Gaius Julius Caesar. He started the Ideology of Mare Nostrum or "Our Sea" (refering to Mediterranean) and want to retake all of the lost land of the romans, and set up the italian empire. Thus Controling Mare Nostrum

Max extent of the Roman Empire
File:Extent of the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire between 218 BC and 117 AD.png
you might ask yourself but wait some of those regions are in germany? well im gonna let you in on a little fact. Hittler absolutley adored Mussolini and was his idol.Mussolini was "germanies greatest friend and ally". While on the other had Benito was using hittler for its economic base and military power. and i quote "hittler is an idiot and a rag-a-muffin, he is an much needed ally and not a friend", this was in a conversation with correspondent for Corriere della Sera.
(who went on to witness the explosion of germanies suposed atomic bomb, although he wasnt sure it was never called that, he had never seen an explosion so large. theres a whole documentary on youtube ill try and quote it at some point). heres an article for now http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?79919-Eyewitness-Germans-Tested-A-Bomb-In-October-1944 , IIRC its called Mission for Mussolini, it might have been on netflix.

with the Imperial logic of the italian minds in 1935 he declared war on the last country that was not a European power in africa (excluding liberia a USA puppet state), Abyssinia it is swept up in months because this time italy acctually sent some soldiers not only militia


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Pre-war until Post Armistance of italy

these are the main events of this time (im listing due to it being mostly common knowledge)

-pact of steel with germany (alliance) supposed to wait to declare war until 1943 (which had they done italy would have easily won in africa, youll see why as we research at the genius italy had in 1943)

-non-aggression pact with russia

-italy declares war after germany in mid 1940

- italy is reinforced in north africa by german leadership and italian incompetant leaders (which is the real reason why italy did horribly, that and mussolini wanting things done and he wanted them now no planning etc)

- war in east africa is lost in late 1941

- italy is pushed back to tunasia

- war in north africa is lost in early 1943

- due to britian butthurtness of being badly bloodied by the italians in north africa after and outnumbered axis force holds off the entirety of the western allies for nearly 3 years in open combat, refuse to let the now free democratic peoples of italy to be allies rather co-billigerent forces.
 (not the germans remeber that also as we go forward it was 80% italian forces in africa this is where the brit propaganda shines through)

- Mussolini gets a puppet northern italian RSI country

- no more organized italian state until 1948

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Regia Aeronautica (italian airforce)

Breda Ba.64 Ground Attack aircraft (1935-1937)
File:Breda Ba64.jpg
General Characteristics
2 crew
Length: 9.72m
Wingspan: 12.10m
Height: 3.14m
Wing Area 23.50
Empty Weight: 2,030kg
Max takeoff Weight 3,034
Alfa Romeo 125C radial piston engine of 650 horsepower output

Proformance:
Max Speed: 350km/h
Range: 900km
Max Ceiling 7,000m

Armament
Guns: 2 x 12.7mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns
3 × 7.7 mm (.303 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns

Bombs
544kg

this Plane was quickly replaced with an evoloution the Breda Ba.65, with only 42 built many survived until the end of the war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breda_Ba.64

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Breda Ba.65 (1937-39)

File:Breda Ba.65.jpg

The Ba.65 was a single-seat, all-metal, low-wing cantilever monoplane with aft-retracting main undercarriage. Like its predecessor, it was intended to undertake multiple roles as a fighter, Ground-attack and reconnaissance aircraft. This airplane had 218 built.

The unit took part in operations at Santander in August 1937, then at the Battles of Teruel and the Ebro. It proved effective and was compared positively with the German Junkers Ju 87 Stuka.

Specifications:
Crew:1
  • Length: 9.30 m (30 ft 6.1 in)
  • Wingspan: 12.10 m (39 ft 8.4 in)
  • Height: 3.20 m (10 ft 6 in)
  • Wing area: 23.5 m² (253 ft²)
  • Empty weight: 2,400 kg (5,300 lb)
  • Max. takeoff weight: 2,950 kg (6,500 lb)
  • Powerplant: 1 × Fiat A.80 RC.41 radial engine, 746 kW (1,000 hp)

Proformance:
Maximum speed: 430 km/h (230 kn, 270 mph)
Range: 550 km (342 mi)
Service ceiling: 6,300 m (20,670 ft)

Armament:
Guns: * 2 × 12.7 mm (.50 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns, 2 × 7.7 mm (.303 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns
Bombs: 200kg internal, external 500 kg (1,102 lb)

Variants of this plane:
- Ba.65 K.14: First single-seater ground attack version with radial engine and armed with machine guns Piaggio Breda-SAFAT caliber 7.70 mm and 12.7 mm

- Ba.65 a: Bis Ba.65 Version tandem with increased At fuel capacity and additional removable machine gun in dorsal gun carriage.

- Ba.65 bisl: equipped with a rear turret version.
 
- Ba.65 М: dive bomber version, 40 conversion Ba.65bis made by Caproni Vizzola.

replaced with the Savoia-Marchetti S.79 dive bomber, Ca.310 and the Ba.88

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Caproni Ca.310 (1937-1948)

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The Ca.310 was designed as a low-wing monoplane reconnaissance/bomber, being essentially a version of the semi-military Ca.309 with retractable landing gear and uprated engines. The fuselage was of welded steel tube construction with a covering of light alloy panels and fabric, while the empennage/tail unit was of wooden construction with plywood skin on its fixed portions and fabric covering on control surfaces.

312 of these light bombers were built durring the war

Variants
Ca.310: Twin-engined reconnaissance aircraft, poweredby 2x Piaggio Stella P.VII C.16/35 7-cyl. radial piston engines.Ca.310 Idro: Twin-float seaplane version.Ca.310bis: Effectively the prototype of the Caproni Ca.311 with the unstepped all glazed nose and 2x Piaggio Stella P.VII C.35 engines

General Characteristics
Crew:
3
Length: 12.20 m (40 ft)
Wingspan: 16.20 m (53 ft)
Height: 3.52 m (11.5 ft)
Wing area: 38.7 m² (127 ft²)
Empty weight: 3,040 kg (6,702 lb)
Loaded weight: 4,650 kg (10,251 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Piaggio Stella P.VII C.16/35, 350 kW (470 hp) each

Proformance:
Maximum speed:
365 km/h (227 mph)
Cruise speed: 285-312 km/h (177-194 mph)
Range: 1,690 km (1,050 mi)
Service ceiling: 7,000 m (22,966 ft)

Weapons:
Guns
: 3 × 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Breda SAFAT machine guns (2 × 7.7 mm/0.303 in machine guns fixed forward firing mounted in the wingroots; 1 × 7.7 mm/0.303 in machine gun in a dorsal turret)
Bombs: up to 450 kg (992 lb)

Replaced with the Ca.311 and Ca.312

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproni_Ca.310

 


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Caproni Ca.313
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a further developement of the the Caproni Ca.310, with 271 of these planes produced. this was italies primary airbourne transport (or Paracadutisti, italy was also the first to officially have airbourne divisions might i add, in 1927), and transport plane, although it also was used as a light bomber.


General Characteristics:
Crew:
3
Length: 11.80 m (38 ft 8 in)
Wingspan: 16.65 m (54 ft 7 in)
Height: 3.70 m (12 ft 2 in)
Wing area: 38.9 m2 (419 ft2)
Empty weight: 4,072 kg (8,977 lb)
Gross weight: 5,672 kg (12,505 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Isotta Fraschini Delta R.C.35 I-DS, 545 kW (730 hp) each

Proformance:
Maximum speed:
430 km/h (268 mph)
Range: 1,700 km (1,050 miles)
Service ceiling: 8,500 m (27,880 ft)

Weapons:
Guns: 3 × 7.7 mm (.303 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns
Bombs: 400 kg (882 lb) of bombs

Variants:
Ca.312 An enhanced Ca.310 with inline engines. Sold to Norway.
Ca.313 Prototype A Ca.310 airframe with inline engines in place of previous radial engines.
Ca.313 Production Improved derivative of Ca.310 with inline engines. Built in several versions

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Fighter Planes

Cr.42 (1939-1943)

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The CR.42 was a evolutionary design based on the earlier Fiat CR.32, which was in turn derived from the Fiat CR.30 series created in 1932. The Regia Aeronautica had employed the CR.32 during the Spanish Civil War with great success, which led to Fiat proposing a more advanced fighter based around the supercharged Fiat A.74R1C.38 air-cooled radial engine geared to drive a metal three-blade Fiat-Hamilton Standard 3D.41-1 propeller of 2.9 metres (9 ft 6 in) diameter and a robust, clean, sesquiplane design. The rigidly braced wings covered with fabric were constructed from light duralumin alloy and steel. It reached a top speed of 438 km/h (272 mph) at 5,300 m (17,400 ft) and 342 km/h (213 mph) at ground level. Climb rate was 1 minute and 25 seconds to 1,000 m (3,280 ft) and of 7 minutes and 20 seconds to 6,000 m (19,700 ft).

In spite of the biplane configuration, the CR.42 was a modern, "sleek-looking" design based around a strong steel and alloy frame incorporating a NACA cowling housing the radial engine, with fairings for the fixed main landing gear. The CR.42's upper wing was larger than its lower wing, a configuration known as a sesquiplane.The aircraft proved exceptionally agile thanks to its very low wing loading, although at the same time, the CR.42 lacked armour and radio equipment. with almost 2,000 built this was italies early war fighter


CR.42: Early CR.42s were armed with one 12.7 mm (.5 in) machine gun and one 7.7 mm (.303 in) machine gun. The CR.42bis replaced the 7.7 mm with a second 12.7 mm.
CR.42 Egeo: Equipped, for Aegean theater, with an extra 80 L (20 US gal) fuel tank in the fuselage.
CR.42AS: A close air-support version. The two standard 12.7 mm machine guns could be supplemented with two more. There were underwing racks for two 220 lb (100 kg) bombs. AS stands for 'Africa Settentrionale.' There was an additional engine filter to prevent damage from sand which caused a loss in power, a common occurrence in North Africa, since filter-less engines could be damaged after only a few hours use.
CR.42B: One aircraft equipped with the Daimler-Benz DB 601 engine, estimated maximum speed 518 km/h (323 mph).
CR.42bis: Standard armament of two 12.7 mm machine guns mounted.
CR.42CN: Night fighter version with spotlights in gondolas under the wings and prolonged engine exhausts.
CR.42ter: 2 × 12.7 mm (.5 in) machine guns with two additional guns mounted in blisters under the wings.
ICR.42: Experimental floatplane version designed by CMASA, top speed decreased by only 8 km/h (5 mph) in spite of the 124 kg (273 lb) increase in weight.
CR.42LW: Night harassment, anti-partisan aircraft for the German Luftwaffe. The aircraft were equipped with exhaust flame dampers, a pair of 12.7 mm machine guns and underwing racks for four 50 kg bombs. 150 were built, of which 112 were accepted into service by Luftwaffe.
CR.42 "Bombe Alari": (unofficial but widely used name) Modification carried out at SRAMs (repair centers), to allow outdated fighters to be used in ground attack roles. Underwing pylons for 2 × 50 kg (110 lb) bombs were added; often these pylons were loaded with 100 kg (220 lb) bombs. The same modification was carried out on Fiat G.50s and Macchi C.200s.
CR.42 two-seaters: Several Italian CR.42s were converted into two-seat communications aircraft.
CR.42DB:  One CR.42 was fitted with an early 895 kW (1,200 hp) DB 601A inline engine. A speed of 525 km/h (326 mph) was attained.

Characterisitcs

Crew: 1
Length: 8.25 m (27 ft 1 in)
Wingspan:
Top wing: 9.70 m (31 ft 10 in)
Bottom wing: 6.50 m (21 ft 4 in))
Height: 3.585 m (10 ft)
Wing area: 22.4 m² (241.0 ft²)
Empty weight: 1,782 kg (3,929 lb)
Loaded weight: 2,295 kg (5,060 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Fiat A.74 RC38 radial air-cooled, fourteen cylinders radial engine, 627 kW (840 hp at 2,400 r.p.m./12,500 ft)Maximum speed: 441 km/h (238 kn, 274 mph) at 20,000 ft
Cruise speed: 399 km/h (215 kn, 248 mph)
Range: 780 km (420 nmi, 485 mi)
Service ceiling: 10,210 m (33,500 ft)
Rate of climb: 11.8 m/s (2,340 ft/min)
Wing loading: 102 kg/m² (21 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 270 W/kg (0.17 hp/lb)

Armament
Guns:
First series : Breda SAFAT 7.7 mm (0.303 in), Later 2 × 12.7 mm (0.5 in) Breda SAFAT machine guns, 400 rpg.
2 × 12.7 mm (.5 in) machine-guns in underwing fairing on some.
Bombs:
200 kg (440 lb) on 2 × wing hardpoints

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G.50 Freccia Fighter plane (1937-1943)

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FIAT G.50 II Series (left also known as G.50. BIS), and the G.50V (right)

The Fiat G.50 Freccia ("Arrow") was a World War II Italian fighter aircraft. First flown in February 1937, the G.50 was Italy’s first single-seat, all-metal monoplane with an enclosed cockpit and retractable Undercarriage to go into production. In early 1938, the Freccias served in the Regia Aeronautica (the Italian Air Force), and with its expeditionary arm, the Aviazione Legionaria, in Spain, where they proved to be fast and, as with most Italian designs, very manoeuvrable

This was italies entry into modern aerodynamics with 791 built

Variants:
G.50: First production version.
G.50 bis: Development of the G.50 version with extended range; 421 built.
G.50 ter: More powerful version with a 746 kW (1,000 hp) Fiat A.76 engine; one built.
G.50V: Liquid-cooled V12 variant with a Daimler-Benz DB 601 engine; one built.
G.50 bis A/N: Two-seat fighter-bomber prototype; one built.
G.50B: Two-seat trainer version.
G.51: Projected production version of the G.50V, abandoned infavour of the Fiat G.55.
G.52: Projected version of the G.50, powered by a Fiat A.75 R.C.53 engine. The engine never materialised and the G.52 was never built

Specifications:

Crew: One
Length: 8.01 m (26 ft 313 in)
Wingspan: 10.99 m (36 ft 034 in)
Height: 3.28 m(10 ft 918 in)
Wing area: 18.25 m² (196.5 ft²)
Empty weight: 1,963 kg (4,328 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 2,402 kg (5,295 lb)
Powerplant: One × Fiat A.74 RC38 14-cylinder air-cooled radial engine, 649 kW (870 hp) (take off) each

Proformance:

Maximum speed:
470 km/h (254 knots, 292 mph) at 5,000 m (16,400 ft)
Range: 445 km (240 nmi, 276 mi)
Service ceiling: 10,700 m (35,105 ft)
Climb to 5,000 m (16,400 ft): 6.05 min

Armament:

Guns:
2 × 12.7 mm (0.50 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.50

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Macchi C.200 (1939-1947) Fighter Plane
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The Macchi C.200 Saetta (Italian: both Arrow or Lightning), or MC.200, was a World War II fighter aircraft built by Aeronautica Macchi in Italy, and used in various forms throughout the Regia Aeronautica (Italian Air Force). The MC.200 had excellent manoeuvrability and general flying characteristics left little to be desired. Stability in a high-speed dive was exceptional.

this was a common plane for italy as 1,153 of these built

Variants:

The Saetta: underwent very few modifications during its service life. Aside from the switch to an open canopy, later aircraft were fitted with an upgraded radio and an armoured seat. Some late-production Saettas were built with the MC.202 SerieVII wing, thus adding two 7.7 mm (.303 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns to the armament. The four (including two proposed) C.200 derivatives were:
M.C. 200 (prototypes): Two prototypes fitted with the 623 kW (840 hp) Fiat a.74 RC 38 radial piston engine.
M.C. 200: Single-seat interceptor fighter, fighter-bomber aircraft. Production version.
M.C.200bis: Breda-proposed modification with a Piaggio P.XIX R.C.45 engine producing 880 kW (1,180 hp) at 4,500 m (14,800 ft). Converted from an early production 

C.200: first flight 11 April 1942 from Milano-Bresso flown by Luigi Acerbi. The aircraft was then fitted with a larger propeller and a revised engine cowling. Top speed in trials was 535 km/h (332 mph). It did not enter production as the C.200 had been replaced by more advanced designs.
M.C.200AS: Adapted version to North African Campaign.
M.C.200CB: Fighter-bomber version with 320 kg (710 lb) of bombs or two external fuel tanks (fighter escort).
M.C.201: As an answer to a 5 January 1938 request by the Regia Aeronautica for a C.200 replacement, Aermacchi proposed the C.201, with a revised fuselage, an engine Isotta-Fraschini Astro A.140RC.40 (license variant of the French Gnome-et-Rhone GR.14Krs Mistral Masjor) with 870CV. But later the choice was for the Fiat A.76 R.C.40 engine with 750 kW (1,000 hp). Two prototypes were ordered. The first flew on 10 August 1940, with the less powerful engine A.74. Although Macchi estimated a top speed of 550 km/h (340 mph), the prototype was cancelled after Fiat abandoned the troublesome A.76 engine.

Characterisics:

Crew:
1
Length: 8.25 m (27 ft 1 in)
Wingspan: 10.58 m (34 ft 8 in)
Height: 3.05 m (10 ft 0 in)
Wing area: 16.82 m² (181.00 ft²)
Empty weight: 1,964 kg (4,330 lb)
Loaded weight: 2,200 kg (4,840 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 2,395 kg (5,280 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Fiat A.74 R.C.38 14-cylinder air-cooled radial engine, 650 kW (870 hp) at 2,520 rpm for takeoff


Proformance:

Maximum speed:
504 km/h (313 mph) at 4,500 m (14,765 ft)
Range: 570 km (354 mi)
Service ceiling: 8,900 m (29,200 ft)
Rate of climb: 15.3 m/s (3,030 ft/min)
Wing loading: 131.7 kg/m² (26.9 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 0.286 kW/kg (0.176 hp/lb)

Armament:
Guns:

 2× 12.7 mm (.5 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns, 370 rpg
Bombs:
 Some aircraft were field-modified to carry up to 8× 15 kg (33 lb) or 2× 50, 100, or 150 kg (110, 220, or 330 lb) bombs under the wings

was replaced with the MC.202

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Macchi C.202 fighter plane (1941-1951)
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The Macchi C.202 Folgore (Italian "thunderbolt") was a World War II fighter aircraft built by Macchi Aeronautica and operated mainly by the Regia Aeronautica (RA; Royal (Italian) Air Force). Macchi aircraft designed by Mario Castoldi received the "C" letter in their model designation, hence the Folgore is referred to as the C.202 or MC.202. The C.202 was a development of the earlier C.200 Saetta, with an Italian built version of the Daimler-Benz DB 601Aa engine and with a redesigned, more streamlined fuselage.Considered to be one of the best wartime fighters to serve in large numbers with the Regia Aeronautica, the Folgore operated on all fronts in which Italy was involved.

with about 1,200 built this was one of italies main Fighters of the war.

Variants:

C.202:
Starting with the Serie VII, the fighter had a new wing with a provision for two 7.7 mm (.303 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns and an armoured windscreen (previously, only the armoured seat and the self-sealing tanks were provided). Serie IX's weight was 2,515/3,069 kg with the 7.7 machine guns seldom installed.

C.202AS:Dust filters for operations in North Africa (AS - Africa Settentrionale, North Africa); they little affected the speed and so, almost all Folgores had them and thus were in C.202AS standard; finally, starting with Serie XI there was a provision for two 50, 100 or 160 kg bombs, small bombs clusters (10, 15, 20 kg) or 100 l drop tanks. These underwing pylons were rarely utilized, as Folgores were needed in the interceptor roles.
C.202CB:
Underwing hardpoints for bombs or drop tanks (CB - Caccia Bombardiere, Fighter-Bomber)
C.202EC:
probably meaning Esperimento Cannoni, it was another link between Veltro and Folgore. One aircraft (Serie III, s/n MM 91974) was fitted with a pair of gondola-mounted 20 mm cannon with 200 rounds each (it flew on 12 May 1943); later it was turned into a C.205V. Another four examples were so equipped, but, despite the good results in the trials (aimed to boost the Folgore's firepower), there was no further production, because the cannons penalized the aircraft's performance. There was, in the Folgore, no room to mount them inside the wings or the nose, so it was developed the MC.205V/Ns. Nevertheless, the XII series could have introduced a new wing with MG 151 provisions. This is not well documented, as this series was produced by Breda after the Armistice, and was interrupted with the devastating USAAF bombings, together with many others aircraft; among them, also Macchi 205 production and the 206 prototype (30 April 1944; in five days, the USAAF managed to destroy both Fiat and Macchi facilities, eliminating all of Italy's fighter production).
C.202RF:
Equipped with cameras for photo-reconnaissance missions (R - Ricognizione, Reconnaissance), very few produced, later the recce role was covered by Veltros.
C.202D:
Prototype with a revised radiator, under the nose, similar to the P-40 (s/n. MM 7768)
C.202 AR.4:
at least one was modified as "drone director" (coupled with S.79s), and it was planned to use Folgores also as 'Mistel', with an AR.4 "radiobomba" (a sort of remote-control kamikaze bomber).

C.202: 
with DB 605 and other engines
Macchi MC.202 with DB 605 were initially known as MC.202 bis; later as the C.205 Veltro. Macchi C.200, C.202 and C.205 shared many common components. The MC.200A/2 was a MC.200 with Folgore wings (MM.8238). After the Armistice, Aeronautica Sannita or the Co-Belligerent Italian AF began MC.205 modifying C.202s with DB 605s. These aircraft were known also as Folgeltro. Around two dozen were made. Another Folgore was modified with DB 601E-1 (1,350 PS) in summer 1944, but this hybrid with Bf 109F technology crashed on 21 January 1946. The MC.204 was a version with a L.121 Asso (1,000 hp); proposed early in the war (28 September 1940), but all the effort continued only with DB 601 engines. Early Folgores had original DB 601s, while from the Serie VII, RC.41s were available

Characterisitics:

Crew:
One
Length: 8.85 m (29 ft 0.5 in)
Wingspan: 10.58 m (34 ft 8.5 in)
Height: 3.49 m (11 ft 5 in)
Wing area: 16.82 m² (181.04 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,491 kg (5,492 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 2,930 kg (6,460 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Alfa Romeo RA.1000 R.C.41-I Monsone liquid-cooled supercharged inverted V-12, 1,175 PS (864 kW) at 2,500 rpm for takeoff

Proformance:
Maximum speed: 600 km/h (324 knots, 372 mph) at 5,600 m (18,370 ft)
Range: 765 km (413 nm, 475 mi)
Service ceiling: 11,500 m (37,730 ft)
Rate of climb: 18.1 m/s (3,563 ft/min)
Wing loading: kg/m² (35.68 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: W/kg (hp/lb)


Armament:
2 × 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns in the engine cowling, 360/400 rpg
2 × 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns in the wings, 500 rpg
2 × 50, 100, or 160 kg (110, 220, or 350 lb) bombs
2 × 100 L (26.4 US gal; 22.0 imp gal) drop tanks

replaced with the MC.205 and varios other fighters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macchi_C.202


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Macchi C.205 fighter (1942-1950)
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The Macchi C.205 (also known as MC.205, "MC" standing for "Macchi Castoldi") Veltro (Italian: Greyhound) was an Italian World War II fighter aircraft built by the Aeronautica Macchi. Along with the Reggiane Re.2005 and Fiat G.55, the Macchi C.205 was one of the three "Serie 5" Italian fighters built around the powerful Daimler-Benz DB 605 engine. The C.205 was a development of the earlier C.202 Folgore. With a top speed of some 400 mph and equipped with a pair of 20 mm cannon as well as 12.7 mm Breda machine guns, the Macchi C.205 Veltro was highly respected by Allied and Luftwaffe pilots alike. Regarded as the best Italian aircraft of World War II ,[2] in action it proved to be extremely effective, destroying a large number of Allied bombers and capable of successfully clashing on equal terms with such renowned fighters as the North American P-51D Mustang, a capability which encouraged the Luftwaffe to use a number of these aircraft to equip one Gruppe.[

unfortunatley this came late in the war (and is part of the 1943 genius i was talking about) only 262 of these were built

With limited production and service life, the C.205 saw only a few modifications. After the first 100 examples, the wing-mounted 7.7 mm (.303 in) machine guns were replaced with a couple of 20 mm MG 151 cannon.

M.C.205:
One prototype armed with two 12.7 mm (0.5 in) and two 7.7 mm (0.303 in) machine guns.
M.C.205V:
Main production version.
M.C.205S:
Long-range escort fighter with a 200 L (53 US gal) fuel tank replacing the fuselage machine guns; 18 converted from production aircraft.
M.C.205N:
Proposed DB 605-powered fighter with a more significant design revision than the C.202-derived C.205V. The aircraft had a new wing with the wingspan increased to 11.25 m (36 ft 11 in) and wing area increased to 19 m² (204.5 ft²), and a lengthened fuselage that brought the length to 9.65 m. Also, the fuselage was finally adapted for a 20 mm MG 151 cannon. The heavier weight resulted in decreased performance and handling.
M.C.205N-1:
High-altitude interceptor fighter prototype. Armed with four 12.7 mm (0.5 in) machine guns mounted in the fuselage, and one 20 mm cannon mounted in the engine.
M.C.205N-2 Orione:
High-altitude interceptor fighter prototype. Armed with three 20 mm cannon and two 12.7 mm (0.5 in) machine guns. The machine gun bulges were replaced by a streamlined fairing.
M.C.206;
Similar armament to the C.205N/1 with a larger yet lighter wing (21 m²). Reduced weight resulting in performances similar to that of the C.205V again. The larger wing would have enabled it to fight at higher altitudes. Single prototype destroyed by Allied bombing before being completed.
M.C.207:
            Powered by a Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine. Other than that, similar to C.206 but with armament of four 20 mm cannon, none built.

General characteristics

Performance

Maximum speed: 640 km/h (345 kn, 400 mph) at 7,500 m (24,600 ft)
Range: 950 km (515 nmi, 590 mi)
Service ceiling: 11,500 m (37,730 ft)
Wing loading: 202.9 kg/m² (41.55 lb/ft²)

Armament

Guns:

2 × 12.7 mm (.5 in) Breda-SAFAT machine guns, 400 rpg, in the nose
2 × 20 mm MG 151 cannon, 250 rpg, in the wings

Bombs:
2 × 160 kg (350 lb) bombs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macchi_C.205


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