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Hi Forum
I am new to this site and to IF so I am floundering here and desperately need direction.
A few questions should see me right namely:

1)What is the difference between IF;IFA2 and IFA3?
2) What is the difference between (standalone) IF and the ARMA 2 and ARMA 3 (Steam)?
3) How does one tell which version of IF (standalone) you have?
4) Would the IFA3 mods work with the standalone version of IF?

Any guidance will be appreciated.
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Hello Pierrefv, Welcome to IF Fan Forums!
Let me answer your questions for you, i will quote each question:

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1)What is the difference between IF;IFA2 and IFA3?

IF stands for Iron Front, the full title of Iron Front is Iron Front: Liberation 1944

IFA2 stands for Iron Front in Arma 2 and is the conversion of the Iron Front: Liberation 1944 game
into a mod which allows you to play IF in Arma2.

IFA3 stands for Iron Front in Arma 3 and was developed by a very well known Modder named Kju,
he had permissions from the companies to use the
IF game assets, basically he was allowed to "port" Iron Front: Liberation 1944
game to Arma3 and expand it which he did.

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2) What is the difference between (standalone) IF and the ARMA 2 and ARMA 3 (Steam)?

(standalone) IF is the same as above, its a standalone game which you can see here on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/91330/Iron_Front_Digital_War_Edition/
Its a WW2 game that was to be a mod back in 2010 if i recall correctly, but instead was developed into a
full game and is called Iron front: Liberation 1944

Now the game uses a version of the Arma2OA engine which BIS
(Developers of OFP,Arma1, Arma2, Arma3) licensed to Awar (devs of IF).

The Arma2 version of IF is called IFA2 basically Iron front in Arma2, and i will quote myself from another post about it:
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So what is it that will allow me to play Iron front as a mod in Arma2CO or Arma3?
Kju the creator of these projects has setup a process called the conversion.
The Conversion is where you are "converting" Iron front's IFA files to a pbo file or extension format, the pbo format can be read by Arma2Co and Arma3.
Basically when you convert your Iron front it will create a folder titled @IF, yes it will be in the form of a mod which will allow you to play Iron Front in both Arma2CO and Arma3, the Arma3 version of the conversion is a bit more complex then the Arma2CO version.

So in order to convert my Iron front game to a mod for Arma2CO or Arma3 what do I do? what is used?
One of IFR team members (DeadTomGC) created a simple yet amazing tool that "converts" once run your Iron front into an @IF folder.
The tool locates your Iron front directory, and your Arma2 directory and then goes through the process, and converts your files for Iron front from IFA to pbo, placing a @IF folder in your Arma2 directory.
I cannot explain how it does this, but your vanilla Iron front game is not altered or changed in anyway, just a copy of the files are created
and reformatted into a pbo so that it can be read and run in Arma2CO.

Is this legal? Do you have permissions from Deepsilver to do this?
Yes we do. Kju has been working with DeepSilver, X1 Sofware, BIS (Bohemia Interactive), and Awar to allow the conversion process
to be made public to the Iron front community.
This project has the agreement of all involved parties:
What are the requirements to convert my Iron front to Arma2Co or Arma3?
1. You must own a legitimate copy of  Iron front Liberation 1944.
2.  For the arma2Co version, you must own Arma2 plus OA.
3.  For the Arma3 version, you must own Iron front,and Arma3.
The Conversion tool that does the conversion process is setup to check if you own Iron front and Arma2CO, and for
the Arma3 version if you have Arma3.


As for Iron front in Arma3 also known as IFA3 on steam, IFA3 on steam has a new name which is
titled IFA3_AIO_Lite it stands for Iron front in Arma3 all in one & lite, the lite means its not a full
HD textured version of Iron Front the game, that was allowed by the companies, until further in the future.

Now this version is a heavily updated version of the original IFA3 that was developed, you can say
its a new serious rebuilt mod of its former self, and its on steam, but basically it has many fixes, new maps,
more vehicles, weapons, tanks, ect,. developed and instead of just Kju working on it like he was in 2015, he
has a huge team that work on various aspects of it.
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Heres a run down of some history for you:
- Iron Front: Liberation 1944 which is a standalone game was released on May 2012.
- Iron Front in Arma2 aka IFA2 was in the process of being developed by Kju by the summer of 2012 i think he would know better.

- In start of 2013 i had a team here on the forums called IFR also known as Iron front Revival you can see our team page here
http://ironfront.forumchitchat.com/post/want-to-join-ifr-6254794?pid=1277281721
we were in the process of .... turning Iron front into a mod for Arma2 and then adding new stuff to it, but Kju contacted
me and basically said hes already doing it,and it would be better if him and my team joined forces and convert the Iron front
game to a mod legitimately as he had permissions from BIS (Bohemia Interactive), and Awar, and others to convert
the game using a conversion process.

So we agreed, we had a tool we created which is called the conversion tool, and basically what it would do is you would need to have the Iron Front game
installed and then run the tool, the tool would scan the game's files, and make a copy of the files, but change the files extension to pbo.

So the Iron Front game uses a file extension of .IFA, and Arma2 uses a file extension of .pbo, so the tool would convert the .IFA to .PBO which
allowed the Arma2 game to read the files of the game.

Why would we do this?
Because Iron front: Liberation 1944 is not moddable, and Arma2 is, and using this conversion tool allowed us to convert the
Iron Front game into a mod for Arma2 😉

So to answer you other 2 questions which should make it more clearer:

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3) How does one tell which version of IF (standalone) you have?

Latest version will be located on the bottom right side corner of the game's menu.
The 1.05 is the version of the game (latest patch), the 1.60.0000 is the game engine version.

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4) Would the IFA3 mods work with the standalone version of IF?

No they would not, and here are the reasons why:

1. Iron Front: Liberation 1944 the standalone game is not moddable.

2. Iron front the game uses a file extension of .IFA, All Arma games use a file extension of .pbo so neither
would Arma2 or Arma3 would be able to read each other's files.

3. The IFA3 mod for Arma3 is basically Iron Front the game in Arma3, so its not necessary to go backwards,
and their would be conflicts, or the game would crash and simple wouldn't work.

4. If you wanted to play Iron front in Arma2 then we have a tutorial you can use and download the conversion tool,
with this you will have IFA2 see here ---> LINK

5. If you want to play Iron front in Arma3 then you need to own Arma3 and you can just subscribe
to the mod IFA3_AIO_Lite here----> LINK
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I hope that clears up your confusion, if you have anymore questions, concerns or need help with
anything for IF,IFA2, or IFA3 then dont hesitate to ask.

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Hi Gunter

Thank you for your informative and concise reply, I am not a fan of forums as they do not generally tend to respond as you have done, for which I thank you.
Next question: 
1) Which of the single player extensions from the Steam workshop are currently active? 
I have subscribed to all of them and many of them are inoperative when attempting to activate them a window with a message stating that certain files which are dependent on another mod are no longer available . Is there a method of identifying the current mods?
Many Thanks again for your input.
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Welcome.
Since TayUk and myself run and maintain the forums, these are our forums,
so we try to be as helpful, and detailed with enough information as we can for all newcomers and regular members alike.

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1) Which of the single player extensions from the Steam workshop are currently active? 

The single player extensions your referring to would they be missions you are trying to download
or are you referring to the IFA3 mod?

For IFA3 anyways all you need for that is IFA3_AIO_Lite
you dont need any other version other then that as AIO means all in one, which means all the other IFA3's you see are all in this AIO version.
So this is the mod you want----> https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660460283
Now it has 1 requirement which is this mod----> CUP Terrains_Core https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=583496184

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What you need to do after you have subscribed to any mods, and they are installed through steam, is to start the
Arma3 launcher and the launcher will complete the installation, thats just for mods.
For Steam workshop missions for IFA3 you'll need to start the mission through the scenarios under sp on the menu of the game.

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Is there a method of identifying the current mods?


Theres 3 ways:

1. You can start the Arma3 launcher and under the mods tab the list you have will be the mods you have installed.

2. You can open up your Arma3 directory located here ----> C:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Arma 3 and all the
mods you have installed will start with an @ in front of the name of the mod.

3. On the main menu of the game at the bottom left you should see an icon of the mod and also hover your
cursor over it and it will give you the name of the mod.

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You will need to be more specific as to what mod or missions you have subscribed to and what error's you are getting
so i can better help you.

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Hi Gunter
Thank you again for your speedy and detailed response it is appreciated.
In response to your question:
1) I only play in singleplayer, as I play with cheats ( My age has robbed me of my reflexes!).
2) I am talking about 1) IF standalone; 2) IFA2 and IFA3 as I posses all 3 games on Steam.

Another aspect of the game that I struggle with is the sensitivity of the mouse, I cannot find in the options menu a configuration to decrease mouse sensitivity.

You Sir, are a scholar and a gentleman and I cannot thank you enough for affording me time.


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Another aspect of the game that I struggle with is the sensitivity of the mouse, I cannot find in the options menu a configuration to decrease mouse sensitivity.

For Iron Front the game go to -----> Options ---> controls
once in the controls, the controls for the keyboard will be on the left, the mouse settings to set the sensitivity will be on the right,
it is the X & Y bars you need to adjust.

For IFA2 its the same.

For Arma3 IFA3 go to ----> options ----> controls at the top is three tabs, the tab on far left is keyboard, tab in the middle is the mouse,
go to mouse, and like above you need to adjust the X & Y bars, to decrease for all three games, just move the bar to the left,
best move both X &Y bars at same time, or you get odd movement where up and down is fast, and left to right is slow.

Hope that helps.

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