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Without offence, but is it possible that the IFR project absorb too much innovation here?

Well, for me it seems that all became a little calm about IF44 now.
As we started (here), there was a lot of more traffic, code snippets, scripts, missions and informations. But then this stopped. Now I see just informations, pictures and videos.
But where are the cool new things I could find here before the project started?
Seems that most of the creative folks who enhance IF 44 by their work, swapped into IFR and can't bring out any new stuff until the project is ready now.
Please don't missunderstand me, no offence against the project, the idea itself, any of it's members. I just wanted to state my thoughts and would like to know your all ideas about.
And yes, I know that a lot of things are not possible without a mod, that's not my point.
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I'd rather save ideas for the IFR content [wink]
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IFL44 was released a long time ago (17 months) so perhaps all the questions have been answered by now!
But if anybody's still got some questions, they can always ask in the scripting, code, missions and help threads and I'm sure they'll get an answer.
For example does anybody want me to do a Katyusha tutorial in the Help thread? One of those babies can demolish a village..[smile]
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Originally Posted by Poor Old Spike
IFL44 was released a long time ago (17 months) so perhaps all the questions have been answered by now!
But if anybody's still got some questions, they can always ask in the scripting, code, missions and help threads and I'm sure they'll get an answer.
For example does anybody want me to do a Katyusha tutorial in the Help thread? One of those babies can demolish a village..[smile]


I'm interested, cheers !

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As we started (here), there was a lot of more traffic, code snippets, scripts, missions and informations

Right, and we have most of them if not all from the Official IF forums here, and not only that but I have take the time to make all the scripts considering
the community is lazy or dont know how, and have hosted them all to download.

Of course traffic is going to slow down a bit the place aint new anymore, if you want you can ask TayUk about traffic and he can tell you that we get
alot of traffic here, I will ask him for you and he can post here on how much this forum gets, you all will be surprised.
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Seems that most of the creative folks who enhance IF 44 by their work, swapped into IFR and can't bring out any new stuff until the project is ready now.

Probably because everyone is waiting ,I dont see the point in waiting because I myself have no idea when any of this stuff is going to release.
And all I can tell you is that we are waiting on word for something.
Overall This isn't the thread for this so, any further discussion about IFR projects use the appropriate thread.
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Please don't missunderstand me, no offence against the project, the idea itself, any of it's members. I just wanted to state
my thoughts and would like to know your all ideas about.

BS dont worry about offending anyone, i personally dont really care what anyone says or thinks about what we are doing, everyone else complained
and spat on the game, and ran off and cried, well IFR is doing something where others gave up, so its their loss.
Just stating where I and the team is at with the whole thing, if you care about the game thats what matters, no need to feel your stepping on toes,
as if you didn't like something then I'd be open to hearing whats on your mind, im here for the community, so whatever it takes.

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But where are the cool new things I could find here before the project started?

Like what?


As Spike said the game has been out since last May (2012), and has come along way, well at least for IFR [wink] but i believe that there are still things going on,
missions and such, but I also believe like Santa Six said himself that hes waiting for what IFR is going to release, so its understandable.


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To answer your question "poor old spike"....... Please!
Iron Front i still beleive to be the most "fun" of its genre,and yes,i do have the latest of the Arma series.I do have heaps of questions still actually,just not enough time lately to try out the answers for myself before posting.So BS, i for one don't agree with you!
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Thx for your answers. I can see that's our sights (my) are looking different.
But I can't agree with all. Let me take for ex. this here:
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IFL44 was released a long time ago (17 months) so perhaps all the questions have been answered by now!

No, I don't think so. This may be right for parts, not for all.
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But if anybody's still got some questions, they can always ask in the scripting, code, missions and help threads and I'm sure they'll get an answer.

It depends inside which area you are interessted in. I'm more with scripting.
And it's not like you may be able to transport all from BIS to IF, don't believe that.

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waiting for what IFR is going to release, so its understandable.

I think you answered my question, yes, that's what I wanted to state. That was my question behind, will there be nothing new because all are waiting for this?
I can't see traffic inside the scripting area besides updating things.
Again, I'm not the one who will bashing all your work, I just wanted to tell you my sight.



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Np Bs, feedback and insights are always welcome, it does seem obvious though that activity in general has come to almost a standstill here in the forums.
I do would like to get some feedback or thoughts from a few other members of the forums to get an idea of why they may not be posting, but we must also
consider that sometimes forums can be an interesting read if you understand what Im saying.

People come here for the game obviously but for various reasons, and i think as you pointed out one of the top reason is our projects here.
Considering this is were IFR started, and that other then some misc missions, coop groups, and maybe a script here and there popping up, word of a mod, or "other"
things would get more attention here as in general the game has none of that, so its more unique and interesting then just some new script, or mission.

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...I do would like to get some feedback or thoughts from a few other members of the forums to get an idea of why they may not be posting..


Well people get politely told off sometimes for accidentally posting in the wrong threads, so maybe they just give up, and maybe newcomers are scared to post in case they get told off too for the same reason, haha..[smile]
Anyway some threads are labelled "No discussion allowed"!
The "Forum Rules" thread might scare people off too and make people think this is an unfriendly forum.
There are a heck of a lot of different sections and threads so maybe they could be culled down to make it easier for people to see where to post?

When I was at The Few Good Men wargame club I often had to run the place myself while the big boss was down the pub or at work or on holiday and everything went very smoothly because I just put my feet up and didn't keep trying to micro-manage..[smile]



 
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Thanks for your thoughts.
I personaly haven't said anything to anyone that would push them away,or scare them either has Tay at least that we dont know of.
I know the one situation with Shpagin about creating a new thread when he already had one, but that was sorted out.
Were just trying to keep the place organized and smooth, 5 posts with the same subject I call spam, go to BIS forums and go look in a section and you
will find alot of posts asking almost the same stuff, because people either dont know, dont care, to lazy, or want the individual attention for there issue,
which is understandable, but its not the way to do it.

Personally I dont care for clutter, and disorganization.
Overall Im here for the community, I'm more then happy making people feel welcome and doing what i can to can help,
if a rule is broken usually its just a mistake, its no big deal.

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Anyway some threads are labelled "No discussion allowed"!

Theres reasons for them, for example if I go to a thread for videos, i want to watch videos, not read 10 posts then see a video,
same for the wishlist, its not a discussion.

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The "Forum Rules" thread might scare people off too and make people think this is an unfriendly forum.

ya right, every forum I have ever been too always had a thread that said read this first before you post, or a thread that was titled forum rules,
if folks are scared by that then they have no business being on a forum then, their there to keep out the trolls, the spammers and those that cant
seem to get along with what the forum is for and about.

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There are a heck of a lot of different sections and threads so maybe they could be culled down to make it easier for people to see where to post?

Yes there is alot of sections here, but I dont see what there is to figure out, if your discussing scripts for example, you go into the scripts section and find a post talking about what you need to
know or want to do, if there isn't one then you make a new thread there, goes the same with any forum section, the term (rule) search before you post is
not so much a rule, but more of a guide to say that if theres already a thread discussing what your looking to talk about then use the existing thread.


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I just put my feet up and didn't keep trying to micro-manage

Really depends on the forum spike, an example BIS forums are massive, with hundreds if not thousands of members and visitors a day making posts,
in the chaos you need forum rules, and moderators. Here its just me and Tay, Tay owns the forum rather rents it, and we both take care of it, we're here for the community,
not to sit here and manage, or enforce the rules, the rules are just a guide we setup as we want the forum to run in a certain manner, dont mean we dont have our feet up.

Forum here will get busy after some projects release, as there is really nothing else for Iron front other then some coop groups, missions and some
other misc stuff everyone already knows about.

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...Forum here will get busy after some projects release, as there is really nothing else for Iron front other then some coop groups, missions and some other misc stuff everyone already knows about.


Yes, when the Mod is released the whole IF community will be buzzing, membership here has just passed the 200 mark which is a healthy sign that more and more wargamers are finding the game and signing up.
Unlike slow play-by-email games, IF is realtime and people like jumping into open multiplayer games and having fun any time they like, there are always several servers up 24/7 and I usually spend around 5 hours a day in them myself kicking bot ass..[smile]
Hey guys if you see me in there, rally on me if you like and be our tank gunner, I'll drive/spot and will set you up for sweet shots against our natural prey, enemy armour..[smile] 

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I notice there are quite a few old obsolete threads and posts in the forums (including some of mine), so if they were deleted it'd de-clutter the forums a bit, that was one of my jobs at The Few Good Men, to occasionally go around with the pruning shears and wheelbarrow to get rid of the dead wood..[smile]

Hey Gunter how strict is the rule about pictures being limited to 1000 pixels wide and 100kb?
I've got some interesting WW2 photos but can't post them here because they're mostly bigger than your limit, otherwise I'd suggest starting a photothread which would add eye candy to the forums..[smile] 

For example this one of Oberst Karl Lorenz and a Panther of Grossdeutschland in Russia, Jan 1944 weighs in at 156k which is over your limit, does it matter?
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Great pic Spike !
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Gunter Severloh

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I notice there are quite a few old obsolete threads and posts in the forums (including some of mine)

Let me know which ones, and I'll remove them, unless someone can benefit from them.

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Hey Gunter how strict is the rule about pictures being limited to 1000 pixels wide and 100kb?

Fairly strict, pics over 100kb and alot of them will really lag the thread, limit is 100kb no more, dimensions are fine.


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otherwise I'd suggest starting a photothread which would add eye candy to the forums..[smile] 

You can still do it, I just sent word to Tay to create a new section that will be Offtopic, once its created then you can create a thread there, I'll let you know.

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It would be nice to have a section with a unique PIC posts and a limit ( say 200kb ).
I've got a couple of great tank shots that I would be glad to share with you.
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